Emily Ladau:
Hi, I’m Emily Ladau.
Kyle Khachadurian:
And I’m Kyle Khachadurian.
Emily Ladau:
And you’re listening to another episode of The Accessible Stall.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Emily, if you would like to support the show, where would you suggest our listeners go?
Emily Ladau:
Wow, we’re just hitting them with the ask right up front, aren’t we?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah.
Emily Ladau:
You can go to patreon.com/theaccessiblestall. Just $1 a month ensures that The Accessible Stall is what?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Accessible, let’s go. Anyway, isn’t it weird when Phi does that? That’s usually my thing at the end. What are we going to talk about today, Emily?
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, you really threw me off. I feel like I’m not prepared now. No, it’s fine. Okay, yeah, we know we’ve been MIA, first of all. It’s really hard being a person in the world these days.
Kyle Khachadurian:
And it’s so difficult to pick something to talk about when everything hits so bad. It used to be… Even last year, it’s like, wow, this thing is uniquely bad, we should talk about it. And it’s just like we’d be making an episode every day, and as much as we would love to do that, we actually have other obligations. But my God, it’s been rough out here, guys.
Emily Ladau:
And actually, truth be told, we have recorded a couple of episodes, and then by the time we were ready to put those out, the dumpster fire grew so much that it was just like, well, this is now an irrelevant dumpster fire.
Kyle Khachadurian:
So today we’re talking about Jimothy the raccoon. Anyone who knows who we are probably already knows who he is. Would you like to give a primer?
Emily Ladau:
Yeah. Oh my God, Jimothy 101. This is so great. And we know we’re late, we know this was a last month disability pride thing, but you know what? We’re allowed to-
Kyle Khachadurian:
We’re just so proud that we were just celebrating what pride we have left in private.
Emily Ladau:
We’re also allowed to be proud of ourselves more than in July, so I’m going to be proud of myself right now, and I’m going to be proud of this little raccoon. So if you live under a rock and you don’t know who Jimothy is, like my husband, who did not know who Jimothy was, and I had to fix it.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Thank you for your service.
Emily Ladau:
Which by the way, there is… Okay, I got to tell you who Jimothy is, but can I just also tell you that there is no greater joy to me than introducing my husband, who is not an online person, to something that I know he will love, but just would not have come across on his own?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah. Yes, I imagine that is a very special joy. I also know that specifically, I mean, there’s a lot of things Emily loves, but she loves very few things more than a disabled animal.
Emily Ladau:
Oh God, you’re so correct. I sent him one this morning.
Kyle Khachadurian:
You did.
Emily Ladau:
I sent you one this morning.
Kyle Khachadurian:
It was so good.
Emily Ladau:
This morning, I promise I’ll tell you who Jimothy is, but this morning I sent Kyle a video of a kitten named Gelato who was too small for a regular sized animal wheelchair, so they made him a little wheelchair out of race cars.
Kyle Khachadurian:
She’s not kidding.
Emily Ladau:
So cute.
Kyle Khachadurian:
No, that is exactly what it was.
Emily Ladau:
Jimothy is a raccoon who was born with a disability that causes him to have a short spine. So he has a physical, visibly apparent difference and he hangs out with his little raccoon family being his cute little disabled self, and he lives somewhere, I think outside of Seattle.
Kyle Khachadurian:
He lives in the neighborhood of Seattle, yeah.
Emily Ladau:
Okay. So he was caught on camera, I think last year, and then came back a couple months ago this year and became an internet sensation for being the cutest little short-statured disabled raccoon you have ever seen in your entire life.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, I mean he is just so (beep) cute. There’s something about him that is special. I think it’s partially because 10,000 years ago he would’ve been a cryptid. Pre-civilization would’ve been talking about this thing that they saw that looked mostly like one thing, but not at all like that thing. And the fact that we get to witness him is actually joyful.
Emily Ladau:
I think also the fact that he is just living his life and being accepted by his family is really great, and I just enjoy seeing how cute he is and how enthusiastic everybody is. I was Googling Jimothy to tell my husband, and then an animated Jimothy started jumping across my screen and then I lost my (beep).
Kyle Khachadurian:
Which if you don’t know who he is, if you’re Emily’s husband, that must’ve been mildly concerning for him because he wasn’t informed yet. You were trying to inform him.
Emily Ladau:
He immediately fell in love with Jimothy, though. He understands exactly why Jimothy is perfect in every way.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Let’s unpack why Jimothy is more charming than most disabled people. No, I’m kidding.
Emily Ladau:
Well, first of all, humans are terrible. Raccoons are adorable little garbage monsters.
Kyle Khachadurian:
That was my nickname in college.
Emily Ladau:
I think that the whole hype over Jimothy makes a lot of sense. But then also, okay, because we as a society cannot have nice things, also have turned Jimothy into a discourse about how we can love cute little disabled raccoons, but we do not extend that same love and care to disabled people.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I know that this discourse at this point has been kind of done, but I do think it is more nuanced and less simple than a lot of people are making it out to be. But I do think if you were to boil it down to one sentence, it would be just that. The same love that you extend to this raccoon, you hesitate or don’t extend to your disabled neighbors or family members, or at least not in the same way. And it’s one of those things that we’ve talked about over the years of doing the show, but in contrast to this little guy who has become an avatar or disability in the way that we talk about disability, it’s very stark to see the reaction to him versus any disabled human. It’s real weird.
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, it’s very notable. And I was seeing a lot of people saying on the one hand Jimothy is an icon for Disability Pride Month. But on the other hand, they were like, “Oh, you love Jimothy? Name five disabled people.” Or, “Oh, you love Jimothy? Well, why don’t you call your local elected officials and tell them-”
Kyle Khachadurian:
For a dollar, name a woman.
Emily Ladau:
Oh, wasn’t that Billy on the Street?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yes.
Emily Ladau:
Yes. Okay. Oh my God, bring Billy on the street back so he can run around and be like, “For a dollar, name a disabled person.”
Kyle Khachadurian:
I feel like your name would come up in an uncomfortable amount for you.
Emily Ladau:
I Googled my name, but I turned off the Google personalization just to see what would happen. But not my name. I Googled Emily disability and-
Kyle Khachadurian:
Oh, that sucks.
Emily Ladau:
It was me.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah. Well, who else would it be?
Emily Ladau:
It was really strange. Anyway, it was because my mother was wondering about how search engine optimization works, so I was trying to give her a lesson on that. Okay, tangent. But anyway, back to Jimothy. So yeah, on the one hand, I really, really love that everybody can collectively get behind the joy of an adorable raccoon, including my husband, who took to him immediately and started using Jimothy gifs every time he wanted to communicate with me, which is the correct way to communicate with me. And on the other hand, it’s kind of like, okay, so we can all get really, really amped about this disabled raccoon, but how would any of this translate if it was a disabled person? I’d be really annoyed if you were like, “Oh my God, look at this adorable, disabled, short-statured person.” No, you’re just-
Kyle Khachadurian:
I’m actually surprised. So I was going to bring that up and I was going to say out of all of the Jimothy memes and places that posted him, and I’m including my own workplace, my favorite one was LPA, Little People of America, and they diagnosed him, which I though was very swell. And that was very nice. And it was also a relief because I would have thought, and this is maybe a little cynical of me, that LPA specifically would have to be like, “Don’t touch him.” You know what I mean? Because that’s struggles that they face. And I’m glad that they don’t have to, but it’s also the fact that we have to worry about it at all is concerning.
Emily Ladau:
Well, now I am Googling to see what LPA posted about Jimothy.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Although now that I say that, actually the Seattle Park Service, they all were like, “Leave him alone,” because they knew that people would try to do anything to him.
Emily Ladau:
Well, yeah, I mean, people are weird. But okay, see, this is super cute. “Welcome to the skeletal dysplasia community, Jimothy.”
Kyle Khachadurian:
Isn’t it great? It’s just so good.
Emily Ladau:
Yep, I’m going to like that. That was adorable. So that’s fantastic. And I do love everything having to do with this goshdarn raccoon. Also, Jimothy is not the only Jimothy. Jimothy might be the only raccoon Jimothy, but this short spine diagnosis is something that I’ve seen in other animals. So I follow another dog who I knew about well before Jimothy named Tilly, who has the same disability. And she’s so cute. They call her Tilly the loaf or something. I mean, how absolutely wonderful it is that we live in the world with disabled animals. I love them.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I’ve been trying to think of where the hesitation comes from when it doesn’t… Why doesn’t that translate to people? And I don’t know, because it’s really hard for me to say as someone who is disabled, but I think part of it is because it’s a person. It’s like, “Oh, you’re me. This could happen to me and I don’t like that,” which is obviously wrong, but I do think that that’s a large part of where that comes from. And it’s also not very awkward to say, “Oh my God, you’re so cute,” to a raccoon. But it is extremely awkward to say that to a person who you’re not interested in.
Emily Ladau:
Well, it’s downright disrespectful to just say it to a random disabled person. So yeah, that’s the thing. On the one hand, people are like, “Oh, you love Jimothy? Do you also care about disabled people?” But on the other hand, if non-disabled people reacted to me the same way that they reacted to a disabled raccoon, I’d be deeply, deeply bothered. So it’s kind of a strange dynamic because I do want you to care about me, but I don’t want you to objectify me. But it’s fine if you objectify disabled animals in my mind for the most part, and I can’t really conceptualize why I’m okay with that exactly.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Because it’s agency, it’s consent. The animals can’t. I’m not going to say it’s fine, but it’s a lot more fine than doing something or doing the same kind of thing to a person.
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, but there’s also a pipeline that I think we create where we’re saying, “Okay, well, if you love Jimothy so much, what about disabled people?” And then does the story of Jimothy open up a pathway for people to objectify disabled people in the same way? Of course we’re overthinking it, but also this is what we do.
Kyle Khachadurian:
No, but I think… Yes, yes, and maybe this is me being too optimistic, but I just refuse to believe that any reasonable human being would do that. I just don’t think if you feel love for Jimothy and somebody checks you and is like, “What about the people in your life,” you’re not just going to automatically go up to the first wheelchair user you see and be like, “You’re so cute,” and pet them and feed them. Because that would be weird.
Emily Ladau:
I think my husband does that. My husband does that to me. No, I’m just kidding. I’m kidding. I mean, I’m not kidding, actually.
Kyle Khachadurian:
But that’s not how he met you though.
Emily Ladau:
Of course. I mean, I think I also actually feel this way a little bit with how much I love disabled children. I find them so cute, but there is-
Kyle Khachadurian:
So much better than disabled adults.
Emily Ladau:
I mean, everyone is. But I find that it’s this weird dynamic where when I see a tiny child in a tiny wheelchair, I just want to squish them and then scream a little because I think they’re so cute, and I love tiny mobility equipment and I love tiny disabled children. But I don’t mean it in an objectifying way. But also maybe I do. I don’t know. Why am I doing this? I also do this to all dogs and all children, so it’s not that weird for me, but I have a special place in my heart for when they’re disabled and I can’t reconcile why that makes them cuter.
Kyle Khachadurian:
You guys remember that one Parks and Rec episode where Leslie Knope, “Is there anything cuter than puppies?” “Yes. Baby monkeys in diapers.” That is just like… I kind of want to dub what you just said over that clip.
Emily Ladau:
Speaking of Parks and Rec, somebody said online that Jimothy is our Little Sebastian.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, yeah. In that if he were to die, I would write him a song and then never recover mentally.
Emily Ladau:
Exactly. Correct. But why… I really actually need somebody to give me a real answer here, the psychology behind this. Why is it okay for me to absolutely lose my mind with joy when I see a disabled animal or a disabled child? But as soon as it’s a disabled adult, that’s immediately offensive. And obviously I understand why it’s immediately offensive. But I’m just saying, what is it about the fact that suddenly when it’s an animal or a child and they’re disabled, it’s fine that it makes them cute. But if it’s a disabled adult human, then I’m like, “Too far. Back it up.”
Kyle Khachadurian:
I think part of it is that animals and children, irrespective of disability, are cute, and you wouldn’t say that to an adult unless you like them. But also that’s only one small part of it, and I hear what you’re saying and I don’t know.
Emily Ladau:
Yeah, because infantilization of disabled adults is so real.
Kyle Khachadurian:
It happens all the time. Yeah, you wouldn’t actually want people to obsess over you as a disabled adult the way that they do over this raccoon.
Emily Ladau:
Not even a little bit, no. And also at the same time, I don’t need you to obsess over me, but it would be really cool if you appreciated my humanity the same way you’re like, “I would die for Jimothy.”
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, see, now that though, to your point, is something I can get behind. I’m not saying anyone should go to war for me, but you should. That is okay. If see a cute animal makes you care about my rights more, I’m not going to stop you. But I do need to make sure you’re on guardrails and you don’t go down the absolute wrong path. And that’s why I think ultimately he’s harmless and he’s cute. Enough time has passed and I don’t have to worry about him being a little bit of a milkshake duck, but I think if you’re an adult who encounters this raccoon and that sort of wakes you up to a certain population that you’ve never thought of before, it’s weird, but I’m glad you’re here.
Emily Ladau:
Actually, it also makes me kind of cranky, though, because really you couldn’t just listen to disabled people?
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, you don’t listen to disabled adults?
Emily Ladau:
You had to see a cute raccoon?
Kyle Khachadurian:
I know we just spent the last 20 minutes being like, “They’re so annoying.” And this is why you got to be careful. I mean, we don’t because this is long form, but you can’t say that on social media. You know what I mean? That’s the kind of thing that people will deliberately misinterpret. And it’s crazy. I don’t know why people don’t listen to disabled adults, other than the fact that despite what they say, the vast majority of them look at us and think, “I’m so happy I’m not you.”
Emily Ladau:
I’ve ended up on the wrong side of the algorithm enough times now and gotten enough hate from people that I’m just like… Social media is no longer-
Kyle Khachadurian:
A cancer?
Emily Ladau:
It’s just not the place where I feel like I’m going to get through to people anymore. And I am the biggest proponent of social media is not slacktivism. If you leverage it properly, I believe that it’s a really good educational tool and communication tool. But I also have just gotten to the point now where the more engagement I get, the more I’m like, “Okay, you are just on the absolute wrong side of this, and I don’t know what I’m going to do to get you to change your mind.”
Kyle Khachadurian:
We talked about that a little bit in our Twitter episode forever ago where it’s like part of the shame or part of the thing that sucked about the death of Twitter as it was, was that it really was a community for a lot of disabled people who for whatever reason either could not or did not want to leave their home and there was nothing quite like it. And I think the same is true for any platform now. And it’s just getting worse and worse as you are confronted with people who don’t leave the house for a much different subset of reasons. Because they’re the worst. Yeah, I don’t know. It’s a little side tangent, but still.
Emily Ladau:
But I will say Threads has kind of replaced Twitter for me.
Kyle Khachadurian:
It’s wild to me how much you love Threads. I think Threads is ridiculous, but I love that you love it. I follow you there. I watch you post there all the time.
Emily Ladau:
Let me tell you something about Threads. I think that my algorithm understands me enough that I just see a bunch of silly stuff.
Kyle Khachadurian:
No, my Threads algorithm is just the worst personal finance advice you’ve ever heard and exercise advice that will kill you.
Emily Ladau:
You, my friend, are on the wrong side of Threads.
Kyle Khachadurian:
And I don’t use threads. I don’t use it. It’s just that’s what it gave me.
Emily Ladau:
Mine is like, “Here’s adorable photos of people who are in love. Here’s adorable photos of my animal. Here’s adorable photos of this whimsical thing that I bought or made. Here’s a very funny story. Okay, here’s some social justice activism. Oh, and by the way, here’s Jimothy.” Threads was how I learned about Jimothy. So I feel that Threads has become a replacement for Twitter. As best as it can. Nothing will ever really fill that hole for me. But yeah, Threads is where I first learned about Jimothy. And do you know that for a solid few days I resisted him because I was kind of cranky about it and I was feeling the same way that a lot of people were, about, “Oh, you love Jimothy? Okay, well also how about disability rights?” But then I realized that made me bitter and we should just be able to appreciate nice, cute things.
Kyle Khachadurian:
And I think that’s why this is kind of difficult to talk about because much like everything we talk about on the show, there are two sides to this, and I think that as much as Jimothy is, or sorry, can be, not is, a gateway to some amazing people and some amazing education that you might not have otherwise had, he is also a very cute raccoon. And I know that’s stating the obvious, but I think part of the reason that it’s difficult to discuss this is because he is both and he really shouldn’t be the former, but he is.
Emily Ladau:
I mean, I saw at your work event that you all had a picture of him, your disability-
Kyle Khachadurian:
Direct orders from the CEO. Direct orders from the CEO. She’s never asked me to do anything directly. And she sent me that and I was like, “Say less. I’ve got you.”
Emily Ladau:
I mean, when I saw that, I was like, “Yeah, that is the correct vibe to bring to the function.”
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yes, no. It was one of those true if you know, you know moments, and the people who knew really knew. And the people who didn’t were like, “What the (beep) is that?” Actually, this is a little inside baseball to my life, but I went to pick him up with a coworker at a print shop and there was another man there who was there for… I think he was printing out restaurant menus. And he saw me and my coworker, and I’m visibly disabled, and she’s a wheelchair user, and she’s visibly disabled. And he was like, “I’m so sorry. I don’t mean to interrupt.” And me and her both thought, “Oh, he’s going to say something really weird.” And he did, just not in the weird way that we thought he said, “Which side is the head on?” And I was like, “Oh, his head is on this side.” And he was like, “Oh.” And then I said, “It’s a raccoon.” And he was like, “Oh, I see it now.” And I’m like, “Sir, this is a real guy. This is not a drawing. This is an animal that’s walking the earth with you.”
Emily Ladau:
What do you mean which side is his head on?
Kyle Khachadurian:
I’m just telling you what this grown adult man said. I’m not…
Emily Ladau:
Hold on. I need to see the picture from this event so I can understand where that question even came from, because there is no confusing where Jimothy’s head is.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah. No offense to this human adult man, but you’ve seen an animal, right, in your life?
Emily Ladau:
I’m looking right at Jimothy. It’s very clear where Jimothy’s head is.
Kyle Khachadurian:
But I do think, I don’t know… Here’s the thing too. Let’s say in a year or two, there’s a new face at all of the disability events that we always get invited to. And we’re like, “Hey, who are you?” And they say, “Oh, my name is so-and-so.” And then we’re like, “Okay, how’d you get your start in disability rights?” If you said, “Jimothy,” I don’t know if I could take you seriously. I really don’t. But at the same time, I’m kind of glad you’re here. I mean, it would be like… And I’m sure this is true for a non-zero portion of the population, but it would be like if you were at an LGBT event and someone’s like, “Yeah, man, I never cared about gay rights until I saw Queer eye for the Straight Guy.” It’s weird. I’m sure it’s happened, but it’s weird. I don’t know if I’d be able to handle that.
Emily Ladau:
Yes, but at this point, I mean, I will take whatever I can get. I know that sounds-
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, no, no, that’s so… Yeah. Go ahead, sorry.
Emily Ladau:
That’s actually, I think it’s its own topic in a way, but something that I think about a lot lately is that we sort of gatekeep activism in the sense that if people are not doing it the way that we expect them to do it, then we get angry at them and then we push them away. And I think as long as somebody is not actively causing harm, then I am more willing to be opened how you came to it, even if it was not the particular path that I was hoping you would take.
Kyle Khachadurian:
And it would have to be like… It’s almost the same way that I feel about when someone says you’re inspirational. It’s like, first of all, that’s weird. Secondly, what are you going to do with that? Okay, Jimothy got you in the door. Cool. Glad you’re here. Now what?
Emily Ladau:
That is my constant question. And as a matter of fact, I think that’s probably a good note for us to start wrapping up on, because to me, the question is, “Okay, you found Jimothy. You love disabled people now, or at least disabled raccoons. What are you going to do with that?” I mean, if you want to open up a disabled raccoon sanctuary, incredible. Amazing.
Kyle Khachadurian:
That’s something. It’s not what I would do, but it’s something.
Emily Ladau:
But in all sincerity, every time you see something about disabled people that inspires you, I would like you to ask yourself, “Okay, now what am I going to do with that? How am I actually going to make the world better for disabled people?”
Kyle Khachadurian:
And before anyone says anything, because I think a common defense I hear to that, because we’ve said this publicly, is you don’t always have to be able to do anything. Sometimes you can just feel inspired. It’s like, yeah, that’s true. But I don’t look at you, I don’t look at most people and go, “Man, the fact that you’re out here is really doing something to me. It’s really making me want to be a better person.” So just think about that. That’s all.
Emily Ladau:
My final takeaway is I would not mind if somebody sent me a stuffed animal version of Jimothy.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah. We don’t have a PO box, but do it anyway.
Emily Ladau:
I really actually would like something with Jimothy on it, but I also want it to be something that supports a disabled person. That’s my rule.
Kyle Khachadurian:
You know what’s funny? This is definitely its own episode. I know disabled people that do a lot of inspiring things, and I know that coming from me to their ears, they’re not going to mind being told that, and I still find myself… I almost force myself to couch that statement. Even you, someone who I’ve known for the better half of my life at this point… You know what I mean? It’s wild to me how deep in my head that is to make sure that I know that you, another disabled person hearing me say that about you isn’t the way that everyone else who’s ever said it means it.
Emily Ladau:
Yeah. It’s always like if I do at all ever use the word inspiring, I’m so quick to be like, “But in a good way. In a good way.”
Kyle Khachadurian:
Yeah, I said it, yes, exactly.
Emily Ladau:
Actually, it’s funny, the t-shirt that I was wearing earlier today said, “Not your inspiration,” on it. Just out of happenstance. But yeah, I mean, sure, disabled people can do inspiring things, but doesn’t mean that we need to be objectified for it. But anyway, I mean that point, I mean we beat the dead horse on that point. I hate that saying.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Don’t you mean feeding a dead horse?
Emily Ladau:
Thank you. Yeah, sure.
Kyle Khachadurian:
To two birds with one scone.
Emily Ladau:
Wait, where’s that from?
Kyle Khachadurian:
I don’t know. My boss said that. It was feeding two birds with one scone and feeding a fed horse.
Emily Ladau:
Oh, well that’s way better. I actually do like that. The horse doesn’t need to be dead. And do you know what the worst part was? Is I almost said beating the dead raccoon. And then I was like, that’s not even funny.
Kyle Khachadurian:
He’s not even dead.
Emily Ladau:
That’s just devastating. I actually will be upset when that happens. I’m sad thinking about it right now. My eyes are tearing up a little bit.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I think they actually are. That’s like… She’s not kidding.
Emily Ladau:
That’s everything You need to know about Emily LaDau. Okay. So what is your final takeaway?
Kyle Khachadurian:
I imagine that if Jimothy is your gateway to disability rights, that you are extremely unfamiliar, and so don’t be weird.
Emily Ladau:
But also if you were extremely unfamiliar, how’d you get here? That’s my question. [inaudible 00:31:18] podcast.
Kyle Khachadurian:
But in the same way that I would love to share an Uber with someone who thinks the Earth is flat, that’s someone who I would like to speak to. I just want to know how you got to where you are that way. And by the way, that’s a sincere situation, if that’s you, find me. I would like to talk to you. Not if you think the Earth is flat.
Emily Ladau:
Don’t find him in a creepy way, though.
Kyle Khachadurian:
And also, seriously, not if you think the Earth’s flat.
Emily Ladau:
It’s not, just in case anyone needed that clarification. Okay, on that note, this has been another episode of The Accessible Stall.
Kyle Khachadurian:
I’m Emily.
Emily Ladau:
And I’m Kyle.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Might we say you look pretty good today.
Emily Ladau:
Especially you, Jimothy.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Jimothy, brother, your outfit’s slaying.
Emily Ladau:
Oh my God, and Jimberly. How rude of us.
Kyle Khachadurian:
To forget who birthed them.
Emily Ladau:
The mother of Jimothy. Jimberly, you look absolutely incredible and I hope you’re listening.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Can we get Jimothy on the pod?
Emily Ladau:
I love him so much. Yeah, that seems like a really good guest spot. We haven’t really [inaudible 00:32:25] guest spots, but I would make an exception for Jimothy. So if you are Jimothy’s manager, get in touch.
Kyle Khachadurian:
Or any other disabled animals.
Emily Ladau:
That’s not a joke. That’s a half joke.
Kyle Khachadurian:
No, I’m not joking at all.
Emily Ladau:
All right. I think that’s going to happen in the future. Anyway, you all look good today.
Kyle Khachadurian:
See you next time.
Emily Ladau:
Bye.